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I just started out a private board to play around with mmud, and the first time I ran the AR, I really couldn't use any of the items, so I stored them all in one of the main street gangshops outside of town. A day or so later, I come back to pick something up and they're all gone, everything, included the non-limited items (demonhide bracers/sandals). So I check the limited item list, thinking maybe I was just drunk and misplaced them, but no, I can see the room number, it's the exact one I thought it was, but there's nothing there. So I ran an offline recovery using the offline utilities. When I come back, the limited items list just doesn't have any of the AR items on it. It doesn't say they're on a monster, or on a user or a room, it just doesn't have any entry for blood lance, holy avenger, dragonclaw staff, etc. All the other limited items I had previously gotten are fine, and they're listed correctly when I do sys list limited command. And new items are dropping okay, I just got items for champion of blood, lady of the dark today, no problem.

The other weird thing is, when I check NEWLIMITED, the list is completely crazy, like it lists items like iron-capped staff as being on the dreadlord of blood, or short-spear on monster mind flayer magus. (sys list NEWLIMITED gives me the list below)

This is a completely unedited board, only about 10 days old at this point, 1.1p. Any ideas what's wrong or what I should do? I'm a newb in terms of running WG and MMUD software, but I got things up and running and up till now it had gone well.


Item battle axe Monster 1133 (ancient willow)
Item battle-hammer Monster 4721 (tasloi shaman)
Item brigandine leggings User Cleric
Item brigandine tunic Map 15 Room 732
Item broadsword Monster 89 (spectral mage)
Item buckler shield User Missionary
Item chain coif User Bard
Item chain gauntlets User Druid
Item chainmail boots User Warrior
Item chainmail hauberk Map 15 Room 732
Item chainmail leggings Map 3 Room 214
Item cloth pants Map 15 Room 732
Item cloth shoes Map 1 Room 2275
Item cotton gloves User Mystic
Item crack Monster 4754 (hanging cocoon)
Item curved heater User Priest
Item dagger Monster 544 (gigantic black ooze)
Item falchion Monster 2354 (captain of the guard)
Item fist Map 1 Room 2260
Item flail Monster 4708 (tasloi chief)
Item flamberge Monster 2475 (dark-elf queen)
Item fountain Monster 5274 (stone giant chieftain)
Item full plate corselet Map 15 Room 732
Item full plate leggings User Ninja
Item glaive Monster 3570 (Pharaoh Rastep)
Item glowing warhammer Monster 5694 (Vashti)
Item greataxe Monster 2634 (fallen angel)
Item greatcloak User Priest
Item greatsword Monster 2379 (dark-elf archmage)
Item grey robes Map 3 Room 543
Item griffon Monster 5345 (storm giant commander)
Item griffon shield Monster 5345 (storm giant commander)
Item halberd Monster 3124 (necromancer)
Item half-plate corselet Map 15 Room 732
Item hard leather gauntlets User Mage
Item hardened leather boots Map 2 Room 2566
Item hatchet Monster 2354 (captain of the guard)
Item heavy-mace Monster 3574 (Dao Lord)
Item high-necked robes Monster 5875 (mammoth rot worm)
Item hole Monster 5274 (stone giant chieftain)
Item horned helmet User Missionary
Item iron staff Monster 4721 (tasloi shaman)
Item iron-capped staff Monster 4692 (tasloi animal master)
Item ironwood shield Map 1 Room 2256
Item jeweled longsword Monster 5370 (mamba)
Item knife Monster 544 (gigantic black ooze)
Item large sign Map 1 Room 309
Item leather gloves User Bard
Item leather pants Map 15 Room 732
Item light plate corselet Map 15 Room 732
Item light plate leggings User Bard
Item long-spear Monster 3564 (saracen high priest)
Item longsword Monster 23 (Sheriff Lionheart)
Item mace Monster 3570 (Pharaoh Rastep)
Item morning-star Monster 3574 (Dao Lord)
Item padded black boots User Cleric
Item pike Monster 3311 (rakshasha rajah)
Item plate boots User Priest
Item plate gauntlets User Ninja
Item pot-helm User Ranger
Item quarterstaff Monster 4486 (Devil Fiend Malivek)
Item rigid leather pants Map 3 Room 214
Item rigid leather tunic Map 15 Room 290
Item round shield User Warrior
Item sandals Monster 4721 (tasloi shaman)
Item scale gauntlets Map 1 Room 2301
Item scalemail leggings Map 3 Room 37
Item scalemail tunic Map 15 Room 732
Item scimitar Monster 1293 (fat mind flayer magus)
Item scroll of bless Monster 6627 (Ozrinom the Vampire Lord)
Item scroll of cause harm Monster 6216 (Dark Mage)
Item scroll of cure poison User Missionary
Item scroll of curse Monster 7232 (thin ancient gremlin shaman)
Item scroll of detect magic Monster 5914 (Shadow Master)
Item scroll of frost jet Monster 5915 (Bloody Executioner)
Item scroll of illuminate Monster 5914 (Shadow Master)
Item scroll of lightning bolt Monster 6026 (ancient gypsy woman)
Item scroll of magic missile Monster 5886 (Scarecrow)
Item scroll of major healing Map 1 Room 297
Item scroll of minor healing Monster 6627 (Ozrinom the Vampire Lord)
Item scroll of resist cold Monster 5915 (Bloody Executioner)
Item scroll of resist fire Monster 6120 (Dreadlord of Blood)
Item scroll of smite Monster 5939 (Banished One)
Item scroll of spiritual hammer Monster 7248 (Darken Beast Lord)
Item scroll of turn undead User Warrior
Item short-spear Monster 1293 (fat mind flayer magus)
Item shortsword Monster 544 (gigantic black ooze)
Item sickle Monster 2332 (dark-elf high priestess)
Item silk cape User Priest
Item skullcap Map 7 Room 1258
Item small sign User Mystic
Item soft leather cap Map 7 Room 1226
Item spiked club Monster 4277 (Crazed Inquisitor)
Item spiked shield Map 1 Room 309
Item statue Monster 5340 (storm giant king)
Item stiletto Monster 1102 (night hag)
Item studded leather tunic Map 15 Room 732
Item suede gloves Map 1 Room 2300
Item sword Monster 5345 (storm giant commander)
Item tapestry Monster 5063 (hill giant chieftan)
Item target shield User Warrior
Item travelers cloak Map 1 Room 297
Item visored greathelm Map 1 Room 2241
Item wall Monster 4743 (massive fanged spider)
Item war mattock Monster 4305 (angry fire assassin)
Item warhammer Monster 3927 (master assassin)
Item whip Monster 4279 (crimson high priest)

An offline recovery should fix the issues with the limited's being all messed up. As far as them going poof, only thought is cause your limited's are all fucked.

Everything you've described is perfectly normal. The limited items disappeared from your gang shop floors because you have the option to "sweep gangshop" set to yes, so when the bbs performs cleanup, the items were swept up and disappeared. As far as them not showing up in the sys list lim, it's because they are not 100% drop items. The very first time you kill a boss in the game, he will drop the limited item. After that, if the item gets swept or flushed, it's a random chance that the item will be back on the boss every time the boss rgens. So, for example, if you are not seeing the Holy Avenger on your sys list limited, that means if you kill the Prismatic Dragon, he is not going to drop it. However, the next time the dragon spawns, he may (or may not) have the item on him for dropping. It's perfectly normal and the way majormud was coded to function.

On a side note, if I were you, I would make sure to run out and kill Monster 4754 (hanging cocoon). He apparently has some crack on him.

Item crack Monster 4754 (hanging cocoon)

another thing is if the ganghouse shop and ganghouse shop was related too was not owned by anyone most of the items would get swept

Adding one more note; if you wish those AR items to spawn immediately, use NMR to reset monster kill times to never. As noted above and as you're aware, the first time a boss is killed it drops its items. By resetting 'Last Killed' to Never and running an offline recovery, the game will ensure that the appropriate items are assigned to the boss to drop next time it's killed. That is, if that particular limited item has not already reached its limit within the game.

In NMR:
Editors -> Monsters
Find the monster you want to rest (ie. Unholy Idol)
Once of this monsters record you will see an entry for 'Last Killed' near the bottom.
Next to this entry is a button for 'Reset'. Click it.
Save.
Tools -> Compile Update File -> Compile Full Update File.
Exit NMR
Run Offline Recovery.
Monster should now be alive and hold all of the items as if it were never killed. They should also show up in your Limited List.

another thing is i see items that are not a limited item in the list you posted might wanna delete it all reinstall once installed do a offline recovery

come to think of it today is apr 1 could this just be a apr fools joke lol

Yeah, I've done a couple of offline recoveries so far, using the mmud utilities in the wg offline utilities folder. Didn't seem to help. Not sure what to do at this point.

My sys list newlimited also looks like yours with non-limited items. I wouldn't worry about that list.

As Joker mentioned, your limited items are working as intended. Your AR items were appropriately deleted from the gang house shop and are now waiting to spawn at the % chance designated. If you want to force them back in the game, reset monster kill dates and do an offline recovery..


Otherwise, tell use exactly what you want to accomplish, because I though the intent of your post was to determine why your AR items poofed and why they are not currently in the game. We've already covered that and provided you a solution.

Hi, sorry, I misread something and then didn't see some of the follow-up posts. I had no idea that items would be swept from a gangshop, I must have missed that option in the setup, I will definitely change that setting. Thanks!

Also, I didn't understand how the limited items dropped and how they were listed with the sys list limited command, I think I have it now. So you can know ahead of time whether or not an item will drop, even if it's a 1% item by checking the list? So if I do a lim check and the spider silk trousers are not listed as on a monster, then when I kill the tasloi shaman, the trousers are not going to drop?

Thanks for the help guys, I appreciate it.